Why do Russians hate their own country so much?
Harsh reality IRL, as a result shills don't have a problem with propagando'ing us into self-hating. Also 'Soviet=Russian' fallacy all over the place makes us hate our compatriots for Stalinist shit.
So is living in Russia hard for an European?
I'm really disliking all this political correctness going on in the west eating us from the inside.
What we hate is moscovite government which oppresses our country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk25AeFWMNs
Russian = Empire.
USSR = Empire
USSR was good for Russians. Eltsin and Putin are bad
no, because 1 eur = 60 rubles.
How so? As far as media says, russians love Putin, aswell as some minor groups in west, thanks to its leadership. I dunno shit about russian politics, but I heard nice and bad things and the same time.
More than 200 years of traditions multiplied by recent freedom of speaking and hating anything you can think of.
Well, first of all, you should keep in mind that the most popular board here is /po/ which is basically same as /pol/. In fact, it is so popular that you can't avoid shitty political brawl on any board now. So, since there are lots of rebelious teens there (and ukranian anons hating Putin for obvious reasons) - there are lots of anti-gov talks.
As for a real life offline: a silent majority supports Putin either because they truly believe he's a good leader, or just because they think there are no better alternative - at the moment at least. However, many people grew tired of him and some (me, for example) believe that there are no politicians in Gov that will defend their interests.
Also, it's just hip and cool to be against Putin. Partly, because the regime relies more on elder people. One can even say, that it's backed up by somewhat ill-educated citizens, while intellectuals often considered troublemakers.
>USSR was good for Russians.
get the fuck out of here
>silent majority supports Putin either because they truly believe he's a good leader, or just because they think there are no better alternative
or because they're fucking terrifyed to speak otherwise (they will most likely deny it, but underneath it all they fucking know it's true) keeping your mouth shut is fucking survival advantage in this sick society
Go be fat somewhere else. You can say whatever you want. Unless you are some politician or another popular person - no one gives a fuck.
I see, so the opinions can be very influenced by the website itself.
Yeah, but i noticed that Russians are usually more "down to earth" and so think with their own head, at least that's what it seemed to me.
Is it true tho, that Russkis tend to be more soul-less, more sketchy and unreliable than an average westerner? It all smells like propaganda, but usually propagandas are present news inflated, so i need to know the opinion of people that live there; both who hates it and who loves it, as far as i get informations. I'm planning to at least work there for some time.
Bumpin slavs and babushkas for appreciation
Bumpin slavs and babushkas for appreciation
Noone probably gives a fuck, but fear is an irrational thing. And with all those sporadic convictions for reposts - you know that's not so irrational after all.
Is that uggo on the right considered white by italian standarts? Daughter of a coal-burner is coal-burner, and her tits are fucked up.
oh shit.. is that the same chick from the op-post. gross
okay, allow me to flush that degeneracy
flushed
Idk, i haven't really searched thorougly, i simply googled, looked up in 4chan and posted some. Could you provide better pics?
of russians or just white chicks in general?
Russians ofc
But could anybody answer about ?
okay, anyway, here's who I believe is daughter of our crown-prince.
> Is it true tho, that Russkis tend to be more soul-less, more sketchy and unreliable than an average westerner?
First of all, Russkies consider themselves having the largest ammount of soul than anybody. Second, unreliable they're. Soviet times fucked us up big time. Hope we'll recover soon enough. But first we have to remove crypto-commies off the kremlyn. Though I'm not actually sure we'll be able to do that.
Those are just childs and a junkie, wtf.
Weird, i thought Soviet times were good for Russians and that they had nostalgia for it.
>Soviet times were good for Russians and that they had nostalgia for it
That's how we know scum from decent russians.
Soviet government cherished scum and opressed decent russians all the way.
>Weird, i thought Soviet times were good for Russians and that they had nostalgia for it.
They kinda were. 70s and 80s were good for people. But more importantly, 90s were a neverending nightmare for a majority of the Russians: mayhem, chaos, poverty, criminals fighting for control, war - you name it.
As for the anti-commies hatespeech - don't listen to it. There are different opinions 'bout them: positive, negative, neutral. That anon is just some rowdy teen. The only thing we can say for sure - their time is over. Even so-called "communist" party of Russia don't bother trying to truly build communism or re-establish USSR. It's mostly nostalgia and need for a decent life that make people like the good-old times with Party and Lenin.
Here are some pictures of russian girls.
>90s were a neverending nightmare for a majority of the Russians: mayhem, chaos, poverty, criminals fighting for control, war - you name it
Watch this schoolboy who only repeats what putin's tv told him. Watch him and laugh.
60s-80s may be considered good only in comparison to the hell which preceded it.
And the late 80s were the happiest times in history of USSR, whoever lived there then know that feel of endorfin floating in air. Because we all knew that the horror has ended.
I wonder how does it change the fact, that 90s was a living hell. Also, I won't say late 80s were much of a difference from early 80s in terms of ordinary people's life. Sure, there was 'glasnost'. But one who lived through it doesn't care for 'glasnost' now - there were more then enough freedom of speech in 90s and it didn't help much.
The fact is: you are just some dumb kid with a believes. You believe that USSR was completely bad, wrong, etc. I don't see a reason to argue with a man who believes - I may as well start arguing with a christian whether there is god (or God, if you will) or not. Arguments just won't work.
However, I have to ask you to calm down. We got that you hate commies, no need to constantly repeat yourself. No one even trying to say that you are ultimately wrong - there are more then enough reason to hate USSR (however, there are reason to grieve for it).
And if you really want to have a brawl - you can always go to /po/ to express you overwhelming hate for USSR. Most folks there share it.
> I wonder how does it change the fact, that 90s was a living hell.
Because it simply wasn't. When Yeltsin kind of saved Gorbachev and then he just left the power to himself and all the press started dissing on Gorby - we all felt something cheesy about that, but 90s were the most free, the most enhancing, the most awesome period in many ways. And what you say further on shows that you're completely unaware of those times.
> Also, I won't say late 80s were much of a difference from early 80s in terms of ordinary people's life.
Because neither school nor tv tell you about those times. In the early 80s it was suffocating atmosphere where two tv chanels full of boredom, grey streets of nothing is permitted. And in the late 80s it was different in all the ways. Michael Jackson on the tv, free market where you could buy almost anything, foreign artists came to play for us, soviet artists made whatever they always wanted, people could leave that zoo and see the world or to live wherever they wanted for fuck sake, people made business (the other kind of people were waiting for government to pay them for doing nothing as it used to - those people think it was horrible, but only because they "didn't know what tomorrow brings" - that's the mentality of theirs)
> one who lived through it doesn't care for 'glasnost' now
how would you know. suck on putin's cock and pray there's no hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mtilj2gKz0
Because it simply wasn't. When Yeltsin kind of saved Gorbachev and then he just left the power to himself and all the press started dissing on Gorby - we all felt something cheesy about that, but 90s were the most free, the most enhancing, the most awesome period in many ways. And what you say further on shows that you're completely unaware of those times.
> Also, I won't say late 80s were much of a difference from early 80s in terms of ordinary people's life.
Because neither school nor tv tell you about those times. In the early 80s it was suffocating atmosphere where two tv chanels full of boredom, grey streets of nothing is permitted. And in the late 80s it was different in all the ways. Michael Jackson on the tv, free market where you could buy almost anything, foreign artists came to play for us, soviet artists made whatever they always wanted, people could leave that zoo and see the world or to live wherever they wanted for fuck sake, people made business (the other kind of people were waiting for government to pay them for doing nothing as it used to - those people think it was horrible, but only because they "didn't know what tomorrow brings" - that's the mentality of theirs)
> one who lived through it doesn't care for 'glasnost' now
how would you know. suck on putin's cock and pray there's no hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mtilj2gKz0
> cheesy
fishy
fishy
Bonus:
You guys think that Blue Whale stuff and ransomwares might be good portraits of what the deepest and darkest Russian mindsets has to offer or is are those just very isolated cases?
You guys think that Blue Whale stuff and ransomwares might be good portraits of what the deepest and darkest Russian mindsets has to offer or is are those just very isolated cases?
Because some idiots don't know the difference between hating your government and hating your country. It's Putin's fault they turned out this way imo, in normal countries not ruled by Putin people don't act this way.
Russian Empire = Conquered others and exploited them for benefit of glorious Russia.
Soviet Union = Conquered others but exploited Russians for benefit of conquered territories.
Russian Federation = Holds on to whatever territories it still has, exploits Russians for its own gain, appeases to non-Russians and neighbours.
Blue whale is a prank, it's not real. It's just something news companies capitalized on lol.
>90s were the most free, the most enhancing, the most awesome period in many ways. And what you say further on shows that you're completely unaware of those times.
And that statement clearly shows that you either were too small to understand anything or even born in 2000s. Or some Fatty McTroll.
If war at Chechnya, gunfights at the streets in broad daylight, hunger and poverty are your idea of freedom - how about you go to Ukraine? They aren't there yet, but very close to Russia's 90s.
There always is some dumb fucking kid who listened to some expelled politicians of 90s or some other assholes who've lost his cushy job and keep crying about those good old days too much. Or whose mommy or daddy had a nice little business which is now completely ruined because they can't solve all their problems with law with one phone call to their "крыша".
Well, guess what, you may be too young, but I remember those good old times when they turned on the electicity for a couple of hours at morning and at evening (how do you like power outages for 80% of the time?), the delay of salaries (for month), indigent army, powerless police, used syringes at playgrounds, sometimes - gunshots, usually at night, bums everywhere, poverty everywhere. It was fucking mayhem.
As for so-called freedom - well, oligarch were busy fighting each other and getting their pockets full. That's you freedom - the freedom of mice.
Нищий свободным не бывает.
Also, it seems you are too dumb to understand: I do not support Putin. I just know a little too well, what was it like in 90s. And it's not some Golden Era that Putin ruined. It was a nightmare that stopped partly because of him. And since his was able to convince a majority, that it's only because of him - he still got support of elder people.
So, how about you go back to /po/?
https://sadchan.sytes.net/chat/int
come to find out why
come to find out why
It's just a chat full of shitposters without any content about Russia.
There are literally videos of people dying and shit, go back to /pol/.
Wow, was the situation in 90s Russia really that degraded?
> Chechnya
well, yea, it sucked to be them then (it sucks to be them now too, to be honest. it sucks to be us as well, but what the hell)
> those good old times when they turned on the electicity for a couple of hours at morning and at evening
Fuck, boy, where did you live?
But electricity regularly went off during all the soviet period.
> the delay of salaries (for month)
for monthS (but that's what I was talking about: people made business (the other kind of people were waiting for government to pay them for doing nothing as it used to)
> the freedom of mice
I wonder what you wanted to say by that unexisting expression
> Нищий свободным не бывает.
because that's all in mentality. suckers are slaves because of their set of thought.
>Wow, was the situation in 90s Russia really that degraded?
Yes. In early 90s before I was born, my father tried really hard to get heathy food for my pregnant mother. And he often ate only bread with margarin for weeks, gived all meat, fruits etc. to her.
That kind of life was middle class.
You should ask your granny about soviet times.
Not many people know of hunger of 1947 for example.
And lack of food for simple people was constant under soviets.
I read about that in history books.
WW2 really fucked you guys over because of the burned field tactics and raise in bread taxes
And how could it relate to 1947?
And what could cause hungers before ww2?
1947 Before War? What?
Didn't Russians used the strategy of burning camps so that the nazis could not come on their land but causing later to have less fields to grow food?
> 1947 Before War? What?
Those were two separate questions
There were hungers with casualties several times before war. And there was hunger several years after the war.
>There were hungers with casualties several times before war. And there was hunger several years after the war.
Good to know, but isn't that also related to the burned fields and raising taxes? If not then what caused it?
It was not related to burned fields https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn
What it's related to is genocide of peasants and suppression of the rest.
>/pol/
What /pol/? I want nothing to do with that shithole.
That pol that in ur ass)
How the fuck is it even connected? There were neither hunger nor poverty in 70s or 80s. And there was in 90s. I got it, you hate soviets. I don't understand, however, how the fuck it justify our shitty leaders of 90s.
Pic related. Some call it "russian cross". Blue is a birth rate, red is death rate.
Overall, it was a mess. And it's the reason why Putin is still that popular among senior generation.
> There were neither hunger nor poverty in 70s or 80s. And there was in 90s.
There was no hunger in the 90s. Not more than in the 70s or 80s
> I got it, you hate soviets. I don't understand, however, how the fuck it justify our shitty leaders of 90s.
It doesn't. The shitty leaders of the 90s were the same soviet leaders. Only they didn't have an opportunity to opress us the way they used to. Though they made their planning to return the status quo by destroying parliamentarism and setting that kgb faggot on the top of the government.
> Pic related.
On that pic you can see those soviet trends and natural fluctuations around them. Probably that's why they decided to start perestroyka exactly in the next negative fluctuation (probably those fluctuations are caused by the horror of first three decades of soviet government, because trends were so positive before them that it was predicted that over a billion of russians would live by today)
So let me get this straight: Putin is now admired because he sucks less than those who oppressed in the 90s, but is still a fucking tyrant compared to the politicians of the west, is that correct?
Is that really a picture of a dude collecting water from a street puddle?
>tyrant
Tyrant? Not really. He's definately not the best ruler in world, but not a tyrant.
>picture of a dude collecting water
Translation of text below the pic: "In USSR all was very good. Unfortunately, bottles you can sell only without stickers".
In USSR and Russia's 90s people are used to collect empty bottles from street to take money for them. Not much of course.
I hope i writed understandeable (i can easy translate from english to russian, but it's hard to me to tranlate from russian to english)
>I hope i writed understandeable
the important thing is the context, it's not very easy to know both Russian and English
>Tyrant? Not really.
Idk in the west he's portraited as so, but at the same time as a hero of Russia, it's all pretty confusing to me.
> Is that really a picture of a dude collecting water from a street puddle?
He's removing bottle labels. You could(and still can) sell empty glass bottles and jar in special centers. But only without labels.
> In USSR and Russia's 90s people are used to collect empty bottles from street to take money for them.
They still do it tho. About 5:00 every summer morning I see and hear someone collects all bottle from my commieblock yard. And these aren't janitor, they start later.
>In USSR and Russia's 90s people are used to collect empty bottles from street to take money for them.
You ignorant schoolgal, those were their own bottles. In soviet union nobody threw bottles because everybody was poor as hobo (because proletair is hobo, like literally)
>Idk in the west he's portraited as so
They like to exaggerate a bit. There is a social contract of sort: Putin rules while he has good ratings. The real problem is the fact that every political party in Russia is either an ally of governing party or too small and insignicant. So, there is no alternative. The reason people won't shut up about Navalny is the fact that he has a real opportunity to create a real opposing force.
>at the same time as a hero of Russia
Not really. I mean, most folks believe he's ok, but the times when common people would place his portrait in their cabinets are gone.
Western media helps him to stay in power in a way. Many people honestly believe that West is trying to get rid of Putin.
You shoul know that USSR was social state where are most of people was under goverment social protection (free medicine, studyng, 0% unemployment etc.). That's why a lot of people love it.
But also Soviet Union was ultra-left and it was giving hery much help to "oppressed" groups of people detriment of others (disabled people, little nations like georgians, yakuts or estonians, workers etc.) That's why a lots of russians hate it.
Really in Russia something about 50\50 of haters\lovers of USSR
*should
fastfix
>it was giving hery much help to "oppressed" groups of people detriment of others (disabled people
HAHAHAHA wtf is in today's teenagers' heads for fuck sake
And I don't mention the rest of his delirium, but this one is just tremendous. Ugly cripples were sent out of moscow not to destroy our capital's pretty image. And neither protheses, nor wheeled chairs, not even ramps for those who got those wheeled chairs somehow.
Every other aspect of his fantasy is flawed, ask me in particular if you have any doubts about it.
Every other aspect of his fantasy is flawed, ask me in particular if you have any doubts about it.
your irrepressible hate for USSR is annoying as fuck.
everyone understood your point. can you stop bitching already?
Stopped.
Not as long as you keep on spreading your shameless lies.
Paska shit fuck of!
You probably wont believe it, but
RUSSIAN KIDS ARE BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS TO HATE ON IT
Even Soljenitsyn and other russophobes are included in program. It's kinda like Sweden, except Swedish kids need more diversity and Russian more anti-communism.
On practice you have to hate on your grand dad and everything he did to fit in.
It gets better. Recently Russian authorities tried to install 2 monuments to nazi "heroes" but failed due to people protests.
However as latest social media surveys shows this trend goes down and kids no longer believe in official anti-communist propaganda as easily. One of them on vk shows 35% declare support to program of bolsheviks of 1917, monarchists have 26%, cadets(democrats) 9%, and anarchists -12%.
>Soljenitsyn
A real Russian hero who loved Russia.
>anti-communists
Real Russian heroes who love Russia.
>bolsheviks
Jewish trash that destroyed a great country.
>communists
Jewish excrement that follow a shitty system that never worked, and the only reason it "worked" in the USSR was not because it was communism but because it was state capitalism funded by oil revenues from western couintries.
>WW2
Communist trash doesn't know this, but we had a history before WW2 and we had wars much more important that WW2, like the Civil War. If the good guys had won the Civil War then there would be no bloody communist dictatorship, Russia would have remained as one of the leading economies in the world alongside America and WW2 probably wouldn't have started since that gullible idiot Stalin wouldn't have been allies with the fascists in the beginning.
fuck off commie paska
go read some Engels and Kautsky correspondence
>nazi "heroes"
you mean stalin
Here they are - cucked self-hating middleschoolers.
They don't hate themselves. They hate you and those like you.
This. All leftists must hang on a tree.
So basically Russia is the anti-sweden but at the same time he's fucking himself by trying to be the exact opposite?
Don't listen to the damn commie. What kids are being taught in schools is to be patriotic, but at the same time they are being taught that patriotism means being loyal to your government (and thus being loyal to Putin), but since most kids hate Putin, they begin hating patriotism too and say stupid shit like fuck Rashka Parashka so it's kind of a reverse-psychology thing going on here.
Russians are also the kings of black humor, they will be arguing and talking shit about their own country because they think it's funny but when someone else like a foreigner or someone starts talking shit about Rashka Parashka they all become the biggest patriots and kick his ass. It's like how niggers call each other niggers all the time but get mad when white people do it.
>Russians are also the kings of black humor, they will be arguing and talking shit about their own country because they think it's funny but when someone else like a foreigner or someone starts talking shit about Rashka Parashka they all become the biggest patriots and kick his ass.
I hate this kind of mentality, it's exactly things like these that brought up SJWs to march against racism and stuff. I'm Italian and i joke and laugh about pizza pasta gestures all the time, but I don't trigger like some SJW if i see someone else doin it. We should all dark humor each other friendly. Things were easier back when we could do it without thinking too much about it.
Aside from humor, what's Rashka Parashka?
Don't listen to the damn pidorashque too. Not all russians are snow niggers some of us are mudslime
But I will tell you what rashka parashka means if some arab explains for me what motowa tablihi means (I only know that it's some deragatory term for taliban members, but I would like to know etymology)
"Rashka" is a disdainful term for the Russian state, "Parashka" is a diminutive of "parasha", prison slang for toilet.
"Teacher-preachers", loosely. Motowa is, if I'm not mistaken, specifically Gulf Arabic form.
>exactly things like these that brought up SJWs to march against racism and stuff
Not quite. It's more like a question of pride. As you probably know, Western country don't quite consider Russia as part of an abstract 'West'. That's mostly ok - Russians often talk about Russia having their own path and shit. You may say that our country has a mild form of inferiority complex. Btw, that's the reason why sanctions won't work - Russians are too proud to succumb to the pressure.
It doesn't mean, though, that you'll have you ass kicked for a joke about vodka if you go to Moscow. I mean, Americans keep joking about Russians all the time - and I can't remember Russians burning US flags, attacking an Embasy or anything.
>Rashka Parashka
It's a mimic of a usual speach of retards from /po/. Рашка (Rashka) - is a distorted Russia. Параша ('parasha') - is a name of a toilet bowl, specifically, in prison. Рашка, парашка, спидорашка, пахомия - they came with a fancy new name-calling every other month. Yeah, really mature.
Oh, and one more thing. As you can see, that guy simply hates commies. I don't see how arguing with him could help (looks like he does have a true passion), so, just consider it.
If monuments to people who killed millions of Russians is not most cucked shit I don't know what is.
Start with hanging your parents then, samefag.
>that guy simply hates commies
I wonder how could he not. I wonder how dare you not after all they've done. Shame on you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
manyamiroque stronk
That joke on monument shit is straight to the point though
Because of government, isn't it obvious?
here, I read an interview of a folklore professor, and here we come:
> Вообще, чем образованнее человек, тем выше смеховая культура над собой. Неумные люди чаще всего любят смеяться над другими, но не позволяют смеяться над собой.
I wonder, what was the joke (that, as we can see from picture, failed).
Also, that's some nice firm ass. Why would anyone consider an ass bigger then that one beatifull? It would too huge!
Government != Country. Russia is a great country despite our mafia government and it will be even greater after the revolution.
I find it hard to disagree with an ass man.
There's no such thing as an ass to huge.
>calls others cucks
>supports leftists
And then they wonder where all these Stalins and Lenins come from.
>calls others cucks
>supports leftists
Problems, cuck? Keep on sucking that glorious job creator weiner.
If I suck a job creator's weiner I expect to get paid for it, in fact, I would choose the one who pays me more before doing it, but filthy commies don't have a choice and suck Stalin's cock for free!
Get up on the highest place in your house and fall onto a sharp object.
BECAUSE IT FUCKIN SUCKS?
The second picture just makes me want more to go there, but do Russians really see the west as the first picture?
Well, before some liberashka jumps out to give tell you that it's exactly how Russians portrait West, I must tell that it's actually caricature made by Russian. Moreover, most of the /po/ inhabitants would call him vatnik.
As for your question: there is always politics, but it mostly refers to countries - not it's residents. And, yes, there is a common view in Russia that they are a little to gay and refugees-friendly and depraved in Europe.
If you ever find yourself on the street of a typical city of Russia - people around will be either indifferent or happy to help.
I must admit, however, that many foreigners find Russians somewhat cold and grumpy. After being in a couple of countries of Europe and USA, I'd say, they are right: Russians aren't too welcoming to a strangers: whether they are locals or foreigners. It's a matter of education, I guess: Russians just don't have a habit to smile to strangers and be affable. And they could probbly be more polite, I guess. We are working on that, though. I believe, we've got better in a last couple of years.
I was actually going to create a 'visit Russia' thread since our goverment does such a poor job on advertasing tourism, but it is not enough people on this board yet, I think.
A lot people see the west as a degenerate place that lost common sense, that's why they call it names like gayrope now, like, even if they will say that liberalism is good and our own country has to be a bit more liberal they will then add "just, not like how they do it over there...", but the stupid ass liberashkas here on dvach (not even the normals ones you find on the streets, but just these radical motherfuckers you find here) think that all this faggotry is actually a good thing because they think Russia has to copy every single thing the west does no matter how fucking stupid it is.
Also, like the other guy said, Russians just don't smile a lot (neither do I, really) but I wouldn't say they aren't exactly happy to help or are too grumpy or anything like that. With my experience in foreign countries, other people are very happy to help and quick to befriend you but end up as very lukewarm friends, Russians on the hand are harder to befriend but they will give their last pair of shoes if you really need it and I was surprised to experience this on many occasions when I came back to Russia.
Is the Almighty God a paid Kremlin troll for Ukrainians?
Thanks for that, your opinion is very important.
Now, could you please go back to /po/?
Don't feed him.
That's very interesting, especially the part about russian friendship, but what do you mean it's harder to befriend a Russian? Does it take more time? Is it about having more common ground?
What I mean is that Russians just act natural and don't see any obligation to be nice to someone they aren't friends with, so you may find it more difficult to become friends with them, this is in contrast to people from a lot of other countries (and especially asian countries) who act friendly with everyone, but less reliable later on because they weren't really your friends to begin with, they were just being cool and polite.
I actually prefer it that way.
Seeing people forcefully smile is getting less and less accepted in western countries and the result of this is an increasing attention for nihilism.
If i want to visit a Russian country that's not entirely westernized (like moskow for example) but not too far from reality (like Omsk) which should i visit?
Ok, the big 3 is Moscow, Saint Petersburg and Sochi. Those you are probably want to avoid in order to see not "westernized" cities. Tbh, I personally don't believe that Russians have that much of a difference from West. I mean, compared to Arabs or Asians - we are the all same.
Omsk is actually ok. It's just a joke (a meme if you will) that it's a place of madness and drugs.
Another big cities (but not that mainstream as Msk and others) are: Yekaterinburg, Volgograd, Rostov-na-Donu, Voronezh, Nizhniy Novgorod, etc.
Also, there is Novosibirsk - but it's pretty far, a 1.6 mil people's city in a heart of Siberia. And Vladivostok - it's close to Japan.
If you want to experience a russian province - you can take a trip from Moscow to some of the lesser cities nearby - like Smolensk, Tula, Tver, Kaluga etc. There you can experience occassional shitty roads and old houses. You know, those, whose photos trolls from /po/ like to post so much.
They hate Russia, because there is a big, well-established group in our society, which rules russian culture, and those lads are extremely anti-russian - because they can survive and thrive only if we are depressed and oppressed.
You can call it conspirology, but to me it's obvious. The core of this 150 y.o. group is part of the russian "liberals" + part of our jewish community + a big piece of our goverment.
You can call it conspirology, but to me it's obvious. The core of this 150 y.o. group is part of the russian "liberals" + part of our jewish community + a big piece of our goverment.
>Ok, the big 3 is Moscow, Saint Petersburg and Sochi
>Sochi
>SOCHI
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>not entirely westernized (like moskow for example)
Well, every city in "core Russia" is entirely westernized. If you want exotics, you go in Dagestan, Tatarstan, Tuva.
Because it hates them
Think that's too extreme, but we never know.
There's basically an Italian dude that talks well of all those cities (Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, Novgorod...) and says those are very clean with nice people roaming around, but they seem a bit sterile, without much life pulsing out of it, but that's just me maybe.
A country doesn't hate its citizens, it may enslave them tho.
What, have you been leaving under the rock?
Foreigners know just 3 cities in Russia: Moscow, Saint Petersburg and Sochi. Last one - thanks to the 2014th olympics and sky resort.
Tatarstan is ok, but Dagestan is a little extrime, I believe.
Nizhniy Novgorod seems ok, but I've been there for a two days on a bussines purpose actually.
What do you hope to see actually? A 'true Russia'? I actually have been living (I mean, actuallly living - for a year at least) in all of Russia's outskirts - Caucassus, far North, far East, Siberia. There is no some true Russia hidden out there. There are different (very different from each other) regions of the same country. If you want to experience the most russian russkies - you don't have to go too far from Moscow. As I said, you can visit some lesser state center - Tula, Smolensk, Tver. If you really feel like it - you can stop at some small city - like Obninsk, Pokrov or Vyazma. That way, after seing Russia in all its glory (in tourists attractions in Moscow), you'll see Russian province - somewhat poor and unkempt.
You can always go exteme, of course. Novosibirsk and Vladivostok - are ok. How about visiting Norilsk or Anadyr? That's some hardcore russian North.
And, of course, there is a russian nature - undeniably beatiful and varied.
>What, have you been leaving under the rock?
Rude. :/
>Foreigners know just 3 cities in Russia: Moscow, Saint Petersburg and Sochi. Last one - thanks to the 2014th olympics and sky resort.
Calm, card-sharper, I watch your hands. If foreigners know about some city it wouldn't make it part of any "big three" whatever "big three" dwells in your mind.
Also people tend to know Vladivostok for some reason, I don't know why.
>What do you hope to see actually? A 'true Russia'? I actually have been living (I mean, actuallly living - for a year at least) in all of Russia's outskirts - Caucassus, far North, far East, Siberia. There is no some true Russia hidden out there. There are different (very different from each other) regions of the same country. If you want to experience the most russian russkies - you don't have to go too far from Moscow. As I said, you can visit some lesser state center - Tula, Smolensk, Tver. If you really feel like it - you can stop at some small city - like Obninsk, Pokrov or Vyazma. That way, after seing Russia in all its glory (in tourists attractions in Moscow), you'll see Russian province - somewhat poor and unkempt.
Truth was said.
even I have no idea why people know Vladivostok, i knew it first thanks to GTA 4's radio.
I understand but I don't want it too hardcore, Novgorod/Yekaterinburg or Kazan seems great. Will it be hard to hang around without knowing the language? Or should i at least learn the basics?
>Will it be hard to hang around
Yes. Well, in my experience, Russians speaks English as good as Spaniards or Polls do. It means, that you won't have problems finding a person who speak at least some basic English on the street, but seller on your local supermarket and a first waitress you'll meet at some random restaurant won't speak English at all (but they'll have an Enghlish-speaking waitress and an Enghlish menu for you while that at least somewhat decent place).
Learning basics won't hurt. At least, learning to read in English: even in Moscow's metro they had no English anouncements up to last year. So, if you ever try using public transport or walk without GPS - you'd better be able to tell one street from another. It's not that difficult, though.
Try Moscow as a start. You'll probably have a connect flight in Moscow whenever you go anyway. If you feel like seeing some other cities - contact me - I can leave my fake mail. Or you can just buy a train ticket for whatver city you feel like visiting. I'd recommend Nizhniy - you can get there in a couple hours by a "Сапсан" train ("сапсан" means peregrine falcon: they have a habit to call train types by a bird names - and I think it's actually kinda cool).
He was talking about tourism or smth. Western tourists visit about 3 cities. Vladivostok is probably known thanks to being a major trade port for Japan and USA.
>learning to read in English
*in Russian
Because they shit
I actually come from Omsk, it's a nice little city that's become a classic internet meme as some kind of Silent Hill for drug addicts but it's not really that different from other cities. Ekaterinburg, Nizhny Novgorod and Veliky Novgorod or the cities around Moscow would be cool places to visit, especially if you take the train there and see some of the countryside.
>conspirology
I wouldn't say you are too far from the truth about that. It's also understandable that some people would begin to hate Russia since the guys who are ruling the country and screaming louder than anyone that you should love your country also happen to be the biggest Russophobes around.
>Omsk, it's a nice little city that's become a classic internet meme as some kind of Silent Hill for drug addicts but it's not really that different from other cities.
So this is actually false?
https://nomadlist.com/search/omsk
What's that? Why is it false? It obviously can't compare with places like Moscow or St. Petersburg, but compared to other siberian cities it's pretty much the same.
Well, I don't know why any of Russian cities can be classidied as "female unfriendly" (except Muslim districts). The rest is mostly true.
Because Russia is one of the worst countryes, there are corruption, very bad economic, life level, infrastructure, people. There are no freedom, u can go to jail if u post bad picture at network. I live far from Moscow all my life and i know what i saying. I want one day this country will be destroy or we will have good government.
>2 pic
Это не Сыктывкар часом?
В английский умеешь, пидорашка? Правительство надо менять, нахуя тебе сразу destroy countrry? Правительство != страна, уж тем более не Путилерская мафия.
>or we will have good government.
Долбоёб, ты слепой что ли? И нет, я не пидорашка, в отличии от тебя, грязная свинья
Don't know. I've just wanted a 'bad' picture of Russia to, you know, show a full spectrum. Since I don't have any and Varlamov has a tone of them - I've just googled.
That seems like a low blow, tbh: you take a picture of some residential area in lesser city of Russia in early spring and put it against tourist attractions of Europe.
>I want one day this country will be destroy
Съебись пидораха.
Повторяю ищё раз для тебя, слабоумный, пидораха здесь только ты, ты ведь Рашку защищаешь.
Пидорах, съебись, тебе лечиться надо.
Because we live here — that's enough.
>russians love Putin
Lol, no. Dont beleave RT.
In before, "Tzar is good, boyars are bad"
Завали ебало, пидорашка
I am from RF and i hate Putin
И лечится тебе надо, тупая ватная свинособака
RT seems like the only media that represents Russia on a global scale, but it doesn't portraits reality. Which one is better at this point?
RF you mean the board?
RF = Russian Federation
My friend (and boss) from UK once told me that all the media is bullshit. RT is influenced by Russian goverment. The only thing I can suggest is to listen to the opposite: like CNN or BBC - and try to find the truth somewhere in between. Trying to find a sources of news and scepticism should help.
Or just stop giving a crap. I mean, it's politics, right? Everyone has his own opinion about the politics. Nowadays everyone can choose a news source which will reinterpret the news in a more pleasent way. Other then politics, I see no harm in watching the RT.
>Why do Russians hate their own country so much?
Because Russia - it is a poor and shit counrty, which most population of counrty are poor and crazy people. Of course, aren't all, that are living and good too, but such - less, and they dream to leave from here. Ukraine - same too.
do you english
Oh hi Ukraine.
You know, just a couple days ago, i've seen on fb an old friend girl of mine that used to live in Italy 4 years ago. She used to tell me she wanted to go back to Kiev with his boyfriend, an athlete, marry him and live there.
She actually did so in 2014; getting back in Kiev, marrying and having a baby with him, being a house wife and all that stuff, love seemed to flow.
Then suddently, last year she divorced from him, kept the baby and got back in Italy, she now works here and receives cash monthly from his ex-husband while he still struggles to finish University in Kiev.
She was a solid 9/10, but i never expected her to do such a thing to a loved one, especially after all those times she told me about him, thank god i'm redpilled.
Are Ukrainian/Slav girls all like that or is it just an isolated case?
Tl;dr qt ukrainian turns out is a bitch, gets money from ex-husband, are all slav girls like her?
Have you asked your friend directly? I mean, it's not like I'm defending girl I've never met, but people do break up. It doesn't necesserally means that girl is a slut.
As for you question: Russian girls (and boys) expect male to pay child support money in case of divorce. And, yes, statitics tells us that divorce ratio is disturbing high in Russia. And, more importantly, if you try to get a Russian "qt", you have a big chance to meet a girl that specifically wants to move from Russia by marrying a foreigner from prosperous Europian country, USA or Canada just to get a more wealthy life. It was way worse back in the day, but still, nothing to be proud of.
The situation in Ukraine of Belorussia is pretty much the same (if not worse... probably worse in Ukraine judging by its reputation).
So, the answer to your question is probably: more yes then no. Still, my ex is ok, I guess. My parents lived in marriage until death and my sister have been happy in marriage for the last 8 years.
No I didn't ask her, but i got that from a friend of her. I also lurked his fb a bit and saw waht's coming.
I know Russian girls often tries to marry a foreigner to acquire citizenship, it's a trap.
>My parents lived in marriage until death.
Your parents, it was pretty common back then. Now having a stable marriage is pretty hard to achieve in general
>my ex is ok
What do you mean by that?
>What do you mean by that?
I mean that, even though we had a somewhat painfull break, I don't think she's a slut and I don't believe she'd marry someone just for money or sweden citizenship.
Honestly, I don't think that frequent divorces have anything to do it with women being sluts in ex-USSR. It's more about youngsters being young and stupid. Almost every story of divorce I know is: 2 teens start dating, get married, passion settles down, they find out that they can't tolerate each other. If they lucky - it happens before they have a baby. If they smart - that happens before they get married. Since pragnancy and parenthood is a hard time for both partners - it really gives a test to their relantionship.
That's it. The fact that male has to pay money for the next 18 years or so to raise their children may seem unfair in some cases, but we, russkies, are used to it and usually don't question it. Btw, russian feminists completely ignore this fact.
nobody like Putin here, but unfortunately we have no good alternative for president's place
This prove that 95% people are idiots.
He means that nobody who has a brain love Putin.
My opinion is - the main reason for self-hate came after 1965.
Russia/USSR was isolted but at least before 70s communism was a real thing, real ideology. Ok, i agree for people it was bad. But you know... it was hardcore idea and many have belived also in the West that communism was an alternative.
After 1965 (personal for me when Brezhnev came) Russia was isolated AND WITHOUT some hardcore ideology. In this time nobody belives that communism works - that was obiviosly in economic compare with western countries. But one thing was even worse - cultural isolation. 60s and 70s was a crazy and dope period with hippies, Beatles, Pink Floyd etc. etc. etc...
And what we had in Russia? 3-5 4/10 films , shitty music, no art. Also what about communism? Also emptiness - no new Lenin or Trotsky, no deep rethinking of socialst ideas.
In the issue - 25 years of depressed isolation + 10 years (1990-2000) of mess and extrem poverty. So 35 years was tottaly shit and when you are 40 or 50 y.o. you could be really mad because half of your life was joyless with a lot of problems...
Russia/USSR was isolted but at least before 70s communism was a real thing, real ideology. Ok, i agree for people it was bad. But you know... it was hardcore idea and many have belived also in the West that communism was an alternative.
After 1965 (personal for me when Brezhnev came) Russia was isolated AND WITHOUT some hardcore ideology. In this time nobody belives that communism works - that was obiviosly in economic compare with western countries. But one thing was even worse - cultural isolation. 60s and 70s was a crazy and dope period with hippies, Beatles, Pink Floyd etc. etc. etc...
And what we had in Russia? 3-5 4/10 films , shitty music, no art. Also what about communism? Also emptiness - no new Lenin or Trotsky, no deep rethinking of socialst ideas.
In the issue - 25 years of depressed isolation + 10 years (1990-2000) of mess and extrem poverty. So 35 years was tottaly shit and when you are 40 or 50 y.o. you could be really mad because half of your life was joyless with a lot of problems...
Russia is fantastic. I was in italy, venecia and pisa. Italy is full of gypsies and smells. The only thing good was some pizza the way i like it, otherwise it is shit.
Russians hate their country ? I never saw that except few butthurt hohols on chans. I think russians are generaly melancholic people they like to whine and think everyone got it better. Every country have shit places and people it is normal, humans are mostly shitty.
> USSR was good for Russians
Wuuuuuuuuut?
But now that all is """fixed""" is doing fine or still hateable?
>Italy is full of gypsies and smells
True, true (to some extent, we have 8% of immigration)
But all of that it's pretty hypocritical when heard from Deutschlandistan.
Trolls aside, what were the nicest cities you've reached?
Haven't you seen neither trolls nor retards around here before?
>But now that all is """fixed""" is doing fine or still hateable?
I would say in cultural life, in cultural dimension (music,films,books) this thing is fixed. There are shitty russian films of course but now you can choose - ok this film is a disaster i better go to guardians of galaxy vol. 23...and no more stress like before, under the communism.
Now the main pressure point is more...domestic - roads/sidewalks with moon surface, your salary. But in Moscow/SP this mess is more or less under control. And when you (angry russian man from countyside) cant migrate to megapolis with good life quality...maybe you should change something in your life?..for example stop drinking and get some education...
So yes - cultural isolation is fixed and "domestic hate" - depends on you.
It was, I love it for example. But it was mine experience.
>Trolls aside, what were the nicest cities you've reached
I was serious. Germans are robots and never joke/troll. Italy actually reminds me of russia, when it comes to roads and driving style.
I'm from Crimea, therefore lived in both Ukraine and Russia. You can ask me some stuff.
I do not hate my country. But how can I love her? I'm gay, and in Europe it's ranked last in the rating of homophobia, next to Armenia and Azerbaijan. How can I love her, if the real salary of 15 000 - 20 000 rubles (sometimes less) outside large cities like Moscow. How can I love this place and psychos like Nicholas II, Stalin, Putin?
Although I like people living here, especially those born in 1990-2000 +
The older ones saw too much shit and all that shit in the last 100 years was heavily influenced by them.
>psychos like Nicholas II
you what
He killed cats and birds for fun - it isn't normal.
commie myth
Why int is so fucking sucks man?
because russians are taught not to know english (that's a special soviet method of education: they teach you only to know that you cannot understand those things, so you start subconsciously thinking that you're fucking stupid and let the guys in kremlin decide your life for you)
Willkommen in Russland
And you will hate this country to. Not to Moscow. Go to anywhere else out of MKAD.
>went to Yaroslavl, Kostroma, Maikop, Vladimir, Novgorod, Staraya Russa, Kazan, Rostov, Simpheropol
>don't hate this country much tbh
what's wrong with me
you are dead, apparently
more alive than you
I am gay
LOL Gayrope is gay)))))))
It's obvious: Abu-pidor sucks dicks
russian liberal's false
Because Russians like their government's dicks.
/thread
/thread
Murca why u so scuk?
At least it's not politically correct
At least it's not politically correct
>Russians like their government's dicks
Lol no, but the government pokes a dick in the face of citizens. It waits the castration by blunt scissors without anesthesia.
Take off the rose-colored glasses or the shit that you put on your ears from RT
The nationalists are imprisoned. On the streets faces from Central Asia. If you say or write on social networks "Russia for russians!" Thalmor will come for you You can be imprisoned.
Matriarchy reigns. For men, military service is urgent. With divorce, a man will never receive a child. The law is guarded by women. Gays were put in prison in the USSR. Lesbians were not put. To lesbians there is less hatred than to gays. A man should. And the other feminism is shit.
Lol, §282 for every slipcrime/wrong_wording_crime against Caucasian and Central Asian folks.
I don't hate my country, I hate our government
anyhow I want to move out
anyhow I want to move out
You will be my friend.
That's a shitty myth from from /pol/, Russia is as politically correct as most other European countries and Putin is trying to prove that with his whole "Russian world" thing. There is no visa regime with central Asian countries and anyone can just enter Russia through Kazakhstan. There is a tax to Chechnya because Putin would rather pay them our tax money instead of taking shit from them like Yeltsin did, so basically he is a cuck who acts like he can fight the world but can't even fight with Chechnya. Feminism was introduced to us with the commies after the revolution, being "childfree" is a popular thing these days and the Russian population is stagnating while the population in the Caucases is rapidly growing. The only difference is that we don't have gay parades like everyone else but tbh as long as there was a fair government in Russia that didn't rob you, I wouldn't care if there were a few faggots around the place.
damn, from all i read RT is the russian Buzzfeed.
I swear this is the first i hear about matriarchy in Russia.
And i thought you guys were increasing in numbers because of the early marriage thing. Anyway what about a visa for european countries? just for knowledge.
This thread is a true eye opener and i thank you all for replying the questions. I want to know more about this country.
I heard a good thing to do is to move to Cyprus, gain european citizenship and then move on to other more prosperous countries.
You don't even get the scale of problem. You must specifically say that you hate Dagestani guys (or guys from Caucassus or Middle East or whatever) to even have some problems with anti-extremism laws in Russia; while in some western countries it is enough to say that a thief, who happen to be negro, is a 'negro thief' to get lots of shit from random lazybones (who call themselves SJW).
And even if you manage to stay out of jail, people will treat you as a fucking nazi asshole.
I'm not saying that it's all good in Russia, I'm saying that Russia is fucked in an all different way.
>Russian population is stagnating while the population in the Caucases is rapidly growing
Nope, you're wrong.
>And i thought you guys were increasing in numbers
No, we don't. I mean, we do, but we barely above zero at this point. Russian families breed not much more then typical European ones do.
>because of the early marriage thing
No we don't. I mean, many do, but early marriage in Russia is 19-25. It's not like Middle East. And most this early marriages end with a divorce, which, in my opinion, gives that awful divorce statistics.
>I swear this is the first i hear about matriarchy in Russia.
Basically, as much as in most other 'Western' countries. Women don't have to serve im army and usually treated better while divorcing. At the same time, they payed less overall.
>while in some western countries
There are many so called "Wesern countries"
And what is important most of the Western Europe treats minorities differntly from the USA.
>n some western countries it is enough to say that a thief, who happen to be negro, is a 'negro thief' to get lots of shit from random lazybones (who call themselves SJW).
Well, no. You are deluded, if you think anyone of any significance cares at all. Not even in Murrka, and this is the second most retarded country in the world after Rushka.
SJWs are, indeed, insane, however, what your media (from the official governmernt bullshit down to to the every single retard on youtube, and this is not an exaggeration) is feeding you is grossly exaggerated. Especially about Erope. Europe is doing fine, Arabs have been here since the early 90s. It's you and your mentally challenged friends on the other side of the ocean that have a problem.
oil = 0,3$
1$ is for 50 rubles
1$ is for 50 rubles
cause RUSSIA - rUSsiA - USA
АААААААААА ЗОГНИВАЮЩИЙ ЗАПОД!!!
АААААААААА ЗОГНИВАЮЩИЙ ЗАПОД!!!
Russia is good country. Russians is bad people. Not all, but 99% are stupid morons without brain and logic. May be better situation in other countries.
Russians hate everything and everyone, including themselves.
Because Russia is occupation government. There're many such countries in the world, but unlike those, russians are white european nation thus they are able to understand that. Probably that's the reason occupiers crave to destroy the white race, or they simply tell us that to make sure other jews are not welcome and thus not going to be assimilated and thus out of their socio-religious control.
Let me guess, you are in the second part? Not one of theese 99%? I think most of them will say the same shit:"Oh fucking bydlo around! It so hard to be a perfect man in such shithole(((("
Because russia is fucking poor slave shithole with no life and snowniggers instead peoples. And pootine is KGB combat midget and its Emperor.
On the pic:
>The life of russian
>1. Born
>2. Suffered a while
>3. Died
>2. Suffered a while
Wrong, it says Endured a little, Suffering is MUKA.
It is ment and build on purpose to be tough. To create the most resistant germs you need to.
Alll the oil russia sells if distributed equaly among russians, each russian could earn 5000 $ a month.
But that would create weak and lazy, dumb and ugly population like in germany, usa or britain.
There were no good times in russia
*in Soviet "Russia"
>posts pics of Soviet Russia
>of which RF is literal continuation
me rate
https://youtu.be/DZwAVsAgsLQ
https://youtu.be/DZwAVsAgsLQ
my boyfriend say latent homosexuality forces them to do it
Yes its true. Russians want to fuck boys asses, but cant do it, even cant speak about it. Also from very childhood they know its shamest shame, so they have huge conflict of their wishes & their ideology - thats why they hate their land, and all others. Most butthurt they get by knowing there is EU & USA, where fucking men in asses is normal & sometimes better than fucking tyans. Thats why they hate themselfs, parents, government, other states and all people arround.
Give them free gay love and they will become normal & hateless.
Suffering is "stradanie", muka means flour u dumbass.
because they never lived in other country to compare how good russia is actualy(they will realize that THEY are shit not russia ;) )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br95MQ-S9ZI
Oh my, first Soviet Indian and now this Soviet German guy. When we will have an independent sosach/int/ culture able to get rid of these?
it is against freedome of speech
>doesnt like communism
>wants to censor people opinions
I never said anything about censorship, ret*rd, anyway, it's not really important. I mean an internet culture where anybody talking in /po/ speak will be automatically marked as unworth to talk to.
Like, you never talk to people overusing ")))))" in /b/ not because it gets censored.
Also everything you'll say was already said million times in Russian — not here, in vk.
Don't try to overbydlo the Soviets, you won't success.
I can easily tell what you will say next.
no you are clearly commie in the head if you want to censor what i say. or what you dont like to hear.
>because they never lived in other country to compare how good russia is actualy
So why are You staying in Germany, mr. Ricco?
>for their own good
>they will realize that THEY are shit not russia
Sounds familiar. Are you from /po/.
I'm genuinely curious: can you list me what's better in Russia than in other countries?
1) Guns
2) Girls
3) Ballet
4) The taste of existentiality
You have already bothered me for 24 hours, the German kukold. go to hui
I grew up in Russia till my parents decided to move to Canada when i was 11. Up till it was a life of shitty grey days, hanging out in dirty hideous commie blocks and nothing but drugs and chewing seeds all day long with no future prospects. When I moved here it all changed, I discovered that nice people exist and that mountains of garbage/grafiti/piss were not a normal human thing, just in shitty russia.
Past.
+
Whatever you say, ret*rd, just shut the fuck up.
Aren't you Turkish by chance?
You had a really bad childhood. I'm sorry if it really affects your life.
Russian cuckold nation whos sucked muslims penis.
Dvachuyu, Russia very bad country. I will be glad if i left this shit.
Because it is an authoritarian shithole
I'm Russian, as far as I know, and still hate this degenarated country...
have u lived in other countires ? not tourist, but work. etc
>I'm Russian, as far as I know,
>as far as I know,
>as far as I know,
lel missed that part, no you are not russian.
Goverment steal so much money so you'll find that ridiculous.
Deputy dont give a fuck about their nation and people, only about stealing as much as they can see, then laundering money, then sending their kids into the best western university, making bank account in london, building personal palaces. Rinse and Repeat.
You can say that russian goverment is like Grand Mafia family (not blood related usually, but based on connections they got during chaos in nineties). Corrupted system - almost every CEO, deputy, and even army general is someones brother/former classmate/colleague and got his post based on his connections or bribing someone who is already in charge.
Literally zero opposition. Every real Putin's rival is either dead or in prison. Elections is a CLOWN FIESTA - we have 3 constant "conteders" - Vladimir Zhirinovsky (Liberal party) Gennady Zyuganov (Commie party) and THE WINNER (Putin or his personal bitch Medvedev). Why its clown fiesta? Because 2 out of 3 dont give a fuck about winning, they are just gaining profit from immitating "real opposition" and living wealthy life. Its not an American ellection where 2 candidates fight for every vote they can get. No. Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov doing nothing between elections to get support from people. Every smart man in russia knows how election will end. Because there is no election Neo
And of course police will beat the shit out of you if you protest against regime. And you will never get official permission to do it without going in jail after. Federal Security Service can arrest you for you goverment criticism in social media.
And the saddest part. Russian people not only do nothing about bandit goverment, no. They dont even fucking realise that there is a problems, A LOT OF PROBLEMS. They are dumb enough to think that their enemy is USA or West or Ukraine, not the people who rule them into economic crysis, not the people who rising taxes every year and adding new, more stupid taxes (soon we will have to pay for Air, mark my word). No, they really think that Russia is great and fuck the rest of the world.
And that pisses me off. You can change nothing if you dont even see the problem.
You could be a good taxist in Sicily
Don't care about any of those except for girls
Shit, that must've been tough, what city were you in?
if you mean degenerate = sex booze and cheap girls/talk/values flowing then all western countries are like that
hope that's not an exageration
From the western prospective Putin seems loved by everyone in russia, since he "saved" russian economy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/06/vladimir-putin-15-ways-he-changed-russia-world
kek
>he "saved" russian economy
LOL, he killed and tombed russian economy and politic system.
le edgy vocal teenage negasonic warhead liberals
bigger part of russians love their land, but hate their state and government
We love our country! Russia is hated by LIBERAHY! They are not people - they are scum
Define ĆliberahzĆ, it makes you sound like an asshole.
This thread is gold, so many answers pretty much all negative, and that's good; because i'm seeing a different prospective about what is usually said in the west.
You see, I enjoy watching about Russian cities and how the people live there.
There's this italian youtube channel that's about Russian metropolis and how they are presented.
He basically portraits how the main urban areas are like; clean, tidy and with nice people.
It's not really necessary to know what he talks about, it can all be summed up in: look how tidy/beautiful this is, Italy is very degraded in comparison and "I don't see any annoying person(gypsy/yeller/beggar)"
Just watch a lil bit and tell me what you think
TL;DR= thread is gold, here's an italian guy that loves russia, is he in the right or disinformation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xb6CCdZdSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urHjUh-8SuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ere4AnjMSk
You see, I enjoy watching about Russian cities and how the people live there.
There's this italian youtube channel that's about Russian metropolis and how they are presented.
He basically portraits how the main urban areas are like; clean, tidy and with nice people.
It's not really necessary to know what he talks about, it can all be summed up in: look how tidy/beautiful this is, Italy is very degraded in comparison and "I don't see any annoying person(gypsy/yeller/beggar)"
Just watch a lil bit and tell me what you think
TL;DR= thread is gold, here's an italian guy that loves russia, is he in the right or disinformation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xb6CCdZdSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urHjUh-8SuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ere4AnjMSk
> Why do some Russians on the internetz hate their own country so much?
FTFY.
And no, Russians generally do not hate their country. If one encounters a "Russian" that shits over Russia and Russians (as in ethnicity), then in 99% be sure it's a greasy Cockhole from the Urkaine.
FTFY.
And no, Russians generally do not hate their country. If one encounters a "Russian" that shits over Russia and Russians (as in ethnicity), then in 99% be sure it's a greasy Cockhole from the Urkaine.
https://youtu.be/C949BffWfLw
You were brainwashed, that Putin defender of the white race, restored the country. Get out of here shit. I've shit on your face.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzvCf_q10UZkUJE0lOav0ag
Here's a video from North Korea. Why do not you go there and spoil the "white race" with yourself?
Here's a video from North Korea. Why do not you go there and spoil the "white race" with yourself?
Are you completely fucked? /int/ is not a hospitable person to everyone except Finns and Americans. Fuck off
Haven't.
I am questioning all of this.
>quoting green elephant
That RU movie was just awful and uninspiring, just like an hardcore Bespredel
You can come here and try to live
Perhaps this is the best answer
I was born in the end of 94 and lived here all my life. I do not remember Yeltsin. My whole life is Putin and the shit he was building on the ruins of the USSR
>Haven't.
Yes. You have. Someone is brainwashing people with this alt-right movement, it's obvious. I wonder why. I think that the leftist does.
That's what their children look like.
A simple operation to the nose and she's more than fuckable, had my gf that had a big nose aswell, she changed a lot after the operation.
only kids on internets
because they are poor because of being born in pidorussia
IMHO they hate the state because it's don't give a thing about normal citizens, pushing stupid laws which conflicts with the Constitution and trying to make censorship stronger (actual only for pirates and opposition).
polish please! Average salary in cd projekt red 5000 zl, average salary of medical worker in warsaw - 1200-1500 zl.
Warsaw is east-european trash bin, the capital of GREAT POLAND look like a average medievial countryside
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> Why do Russians hate their own country so much?
is it possible to love country with fecal stalagmites?
fel
Your country hate russians much more))
The main reasons are:
- sandniggers
- putin
- dirt
- pidorashki
all that: good
> sandniggers
You don't actually have many Arabs, and if you call Caucasian people sandniggers in a desperate attempt to appeal to Western Nazis, you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to pertain to their paradygm.
>putin
Easily disposable.
>dirt
Climate is like that.
>pidorashki
See the "putin" point. Although, to be fair, the rest of Eastern Europe has its own variations of that..
tak
No no no no. Its is polish who hate everyone, even themselves. Stupid russian teens hate just everything mainstream including their country. Russia - forward!!!!
Only opposition hates Russia. To be honest, everybody knows - russian oposition is sort of pro-us whores, feeble spawns and hooesoses
+15
they don't
they hate the state, not the country,
feel the difference
>Only opposition hates Russia.
it is lie, opposition likes russia, but they want an easy job by talking shit about russia and get payed by american taxes trough NGOs which CIA indirectly support financialy AND also to mobilize vatniks(like myself).
it also works as butthurt indicator, the more they butthurt the better direction is russia heading. satan cant sleep well if you do good deed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-reTvDuYrXM
look this pozner guy, nobody wants him in west or israel. his only job to survive is to stay in russia and make money by shitting on russia.
>hope that's not an exageration
Well, if you will be in some rich cities of russia (Moscow, St. Petersburg), you would find out that here is not so bad, because i usually compare russia with USA. As i know, Italy is experiencing not its best times, but it still the one of most beautiful countries of the world and your people are much more optimistic. My friends recently travelled in Italy for their marriage and i self hoped to live there in my 17.
These are photos of my courtyard i made just now. This is the center of a middle-size city in russia and if you drive 50-100+ km away to some village it will be like a journey into the russian empire: no water supply system, no celluar network, no gas, no tech. Only primitive tools, electricity and TVs where putin in.
lol
Becouse their own contry is branch of hell
Omsk a place of madness and drugs -- not so much a joke. My russian girlfriend grew up in Omsk and has quite a few stories. she did a bunch of drugs during school and got sent to a mental hospital where they did experiments on her, people studying her and shit.A lot of stuff she did there i don't quite understand, like walking around naked in snow
>like walking around naked in snow
She was a matress actress, just deal with it.
Haven't you had questions about why she isn't afraid of anal?
It isn't a slav thing by the way.
i wanted to reply to this thread, but then remembered that it won't change anything. Nobody gives a fuck about russia and they shouldn't - it's not their problem.
No, every live matter. It kinda economical ineffictive if most people on earth do nothing but rotting. You're just cynical pessimistic imageboard`s pidoraha but you can change youself and do something meaningful.
Replying on this board does nothing - that i know for sure.
>Russians hate their own country
Who told you that bullshit?
There're always some dissatisfied ppl in every state in the world.
"If russian don't like his country - he is not russian, he is broken Slav."
nazi fuck off!!!!
>russian don't
I don's speak Urus-Martan.
Russians love and like people from different countries.No war.No hate. Russia isn't Soviet(today).
I agree with man.
Yes. If you know about "ваучерная приватизация"?
Do you know about a groups of bandits from Korenovka?(Krasnodar region)
Do you know about "Бабий яр"(USSR) in WW2?
Yes,man.It's true.
Babij Jar was Nazi job though (regardless of following Soviet shenanigans, e. g. when they flooded the ravine).
didn't hear about it. The tactis of "burned land" was used in some scale. During Battle for Moscow retreated Red Army destroyd some number of villages to prevent Wehrmaht to use its buldings. Though exact number of such operations is unknown. I think the scale of such tactics was much less then used by Wehrmacht during its retreat
Also, RKKA destoyed un-evacuated machine plants, electric power statons during retreat. The biggest was DneproGES
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station#World_War_II_and_post-war_reconstruction
*Note that information about tens of thousands of Ukrainians dead because of water dump is inseted in English-article by Ukrainian web-activists
what do u know about Putin?
Had you been in Russia?
I've heard about it.
>Because some idiots don't know the difference between hating your government and hating your country.
100%
Is it easy to get a Cyprus citizenship?
Russian hate each other much more than any outlander. Don't worry. Unless you go to our madhouse - you're completely safe.
Sei italiano?
fucking RETARTED ape geniouse
Because it is not a country, it is hell on Earth.
Literally it is a mix of the most depressing African-style economy and the DPRK-style barbarian slave camp society. You could argue that there are countries which are currently worse than RF in some respects, but considering that they all have been in this state for some time, while the situation in RF is degrading daily, makes the outlook very bleak. Ultimately it is indeed THE worst country to live in in the world. I'm not exaggerating or trolling, this is my sincere opinion.
Literally it is a mix of the most depressing African-style economy and the DPRK-style barbarian slave camp society. You could argue that there are countries which are currently worse than RF in some respects, but considering that they all have been in this state for some time, while the situation in RF is degrading daily, makes the outlook very bleak. Ultimately it is indeed THE worst country to live in in the world. I'm not exaggerating or trolling, this is my sincere opinion.
ask Deripaska, he knows
Nice Englando here
>TL;DR= thread is gold, here's an italian guy that loves russia, is he in the right or disinformation?
Its better to love Russia from the distance.
>Why do Russians hate their own country so much?
because the Russian people were raked over the coals by propaganda that they bad though actually they good, just silly.
this propaganda of self-hate is sponsored by Americans through collaborationist media
>Its better to love Russia from the distance.
no, I live in Russia and I'm fine. I am proud of the country and the Russian people.
and monkeys with the washed-out brains is a minority of the population
>Because it is not a country, it is hell on Earth.
typical monkey with the washed-out brains.
we them call SAMOOBOSSYSH here.
no we dont
>From the western prospective Putin seems loved by everyone in russia, since he "saved" russian economy
(You shouldn`t believe RT or any sellout media, which represent Russia as a paradise, ruled by savior of the world)
Well, it`s not a complete lie, as you know, Russia was in complete chaos during 90s, then in 1999 Putin was chosen as a president and situation started getting better. However, later he became corrupted af, started raising taxes, made his relatives/friends/classmates billionairs, started propaganda about "US and Europe are our enemies", started fucking up economics, etc.
All this led to the fact that now we have insanely corrupted government, which adopts retarded laws, raise taxes and thinks only about how to steal more money and build mansions in Europe.
And this is directly connected to the first question: Most russians, including me, don`t hate Russia itslef, but hate the government, which has all the possibilities to make Russia a leading country in whatever it can be, but doesn`t do it on purpose
(Sorry if there are any mistakes in the text)
because russia is a shit hole which focuses on stealing elections for republitards and serving homophobia rather than on improving their own god awful alcoholic citizens' lives
USA is the same, but with more homeless and more crackheads and gangviolence and schoolshooting and huge dept.
u get mexicans russia get central asians.
yes usa is a slightly worse russia 10/10 sounds accurate
no, both are shitty in a similar way
thanks to right wingers, if we had a real democrat government shit wouldnt happen. thank trump and putin for putting him in office.
Do you really believe a cryptocommie as putin would support a capitalist he was taught all his life to despise and it shows when his government crushes private enterprise in this country. He and Hillary suit eachother much more, so if he intervened, he could only do it to hopple Trump's chances to change status quo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KxOVy52EiE
putin is a commie ? lol
Surprise surprise! Did you really expect a kgp-puppy to be free from being brainwashed to the bone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNX3aDpd4V4
Dove questo italiano?
Have you ever been in Russia? I gave up on this country because your vote means nothing at all. You know what I mean, you can see this shit in any aspect of life, in culture, in politics, everywhere. You win only if you're rude and mean, or if you can beat shit out of your opponents. Everyone tries to show that they are better than you even if it isn't true. You can trust literally no one, even the police would fuck you without any reason.
Dubious claim. In your fucking Moscow there is active citizen app where people can literally vote for changes and moscow autorithes actually listens to those votes. You win if you are more active than another. Combined with very low competition almost everewhere it is very easy to get good life if you willing to work hard. Compared to rotting gayrope or sucky murrica low willed individual like you ended up commiting suicide while here you can live with your miserable skills and even prosper)))
Are you navalnenok ebuchiy?
> Why do Russians hate their own country so much?
It's only here, on 2ch. People love Russia, but hate the government itself.
But iam on 2ch and i love russia.
People tend to live bad. When there is no one to blame, than yourself, the accusations fall on the State and the Government as they are they are considered as wardens of everything, simply by custom. Whenver things goes south, the liability stretches towards the Government and the State. It usually sparks the mutual hatered, which both the citizens and the authority tailor exclusively for each other.
As you know, folly and desperation are ofttimes hard to tell apart. Above all this conflicts and hardships, there is a simple twat, watching it all rotting and burning from 'balcony'. He always has to tell himself that he's decent. No way to put it better than to hate his country.
In sum:
1)Mutual hatered from helpless citizens towards the Government and vice versa.
2)Scorn of unimplicated ones.
Get to fuck out, pidorashka.
HEY! apoligize to this nice jewish men! dont be rude antisemite!
>antisemite
Says who?)
1 eur is more like 70 roubles. but you can't get living permit to russia unless you are tadzhik-kadzak-uzbek
Getting permission is a bureaucratic, yet necessary process. Same principles necessary for the E.U or Australia are customary in Russia. Steady job + place to live + good papers for immigration authorities(Federal Migration Service of Ministry of Internal Affairs).
As a foreigner it's actually quite easy to crack into Russian companies with international business activity, should you have proper education, skills and experience. However, don't forget about peculiarities, such as somewhat mediocre knowledge Russian language.
I won't apologize to this fucking jewish pidorashka.
