Pidorashkas always lie.
It makes sense. Explains logistical disaster: russians stole gas deemed excessive for the exercises.
Those aren't Russians, they are DPR/LPR residents. DPR/LPR called general mobilization and what they are saying could be true.
НАТО
ЧМО
All Russian troops had their phones taken away, we don't know what were they told before the invasion. Not even gossips.
Sorry for my english, terrible hangover, it's hard to stay sober these days.
Sorry for my english, terrible hangover, it's hard to stay sober these days.
If u want honest dialogue, proof you're really from gb.
Also u could go in thread of our new finnish friend, maybe, u'll find some answers there: https://2ch.hk/po/res/46713112.html
Most of russians don't want this war. Ukrainians - our white slavic brothers.
Prisoners of war will say whatever they need under the threat of death. A large-scale information war is being waged, nothing can be trusted.
there is a huge ukrainian/western psyops campain going on
every youtoube video has an ad about "russia bad go protest"
hundreds of fake videos, GHOST OF KIEV and stuff liek that
regarding your video - who knows
The Russians I've seen are mostly young military guys, saying they were sent to exercises and then suddenly ordered to march across the border, probably lying to save their hides, anyone would. All I saw were 2003 or earlier dob. That means they are contract military personnel, not drafted. In Russia most healthy young males are drafted to serve 1 or 1.5 years, someone from Russia could correct me. Those 20yo kids have probably accepted an offer and signed contract with military right after serving their draft term at 18-19. Older guys could've been with military for some time.
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Here is
I don't feel comfortable posting something like my passport but here is a cook book I use.
Мне неудобно публиковать что-то вроде моего паспорта, но вот кулинарная книга, которой я пользуюсь.
Here is
I don't feel comfortable posting something like my passport but here is a cook book I use.
Мне неудобно публиковать что-то вроде моего паспорта, но вот кулинарная книга, которой я пользуюсь.
Do you use paper books in the 21st century?
Скорее всего они не врут, просто обычным рядовым никто не сказал, что они идут на войну. Чтобы они не проболтались.
Fake
Никто не знает.
Но я думаю скорее всего нет, это было бы глупым решением.
U could make photo of your window view or any british documents, covered any id-data and photos, with sup sign and today's date on paper
>Это правда или военнопленные врут?
Это не военнопленные. Это сотрудники "ципсо", это как ми6, только вместо Джеймса Бонда там работает Тарас Пидорашко, который снимается в роли военнопленного
>fuck eat putin ass
все врут
ты тоже, хохлинная прокси как и тот финн из соседнего треда
все пиздят и хохлы и рюсня
Дали автомат, сказали ищи фашистов, а мирных не трогай. Вроде бы идёшь делать благое дело, но поди там разбери кто хороший а кто плохой. Мирные при этом посылают на хуй, орут вали домой, у солдатика начинаются сомнения нахуя он сюда вообще приехал. Весь мир осуждает, дома все из-за вашей войнушки обеднели. Потом в плену избивают и устраивают унизительный допрос на камеру. Что ты ещё им ответишь кроме как я не знал, я вообще не хотел, я верблюд, отпустите домой. Выходит врут чтобы остаться в живых, но и не врут что сомневаются и не понимают.
Толерантная страна.
Ну хуй знает, попади ты в плен так же бы говорил.
На украине есть "центр психологических операций" который придумывает все эти fake news
Идет борьба за умы людей
This is an example of sabotage work - proxykhohol. For you to understand.
О ВЫ АНГЛИЧАНИН
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Here you go.
Here you go.
ATTENTION
OP IS NOT A FAGGOT
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
I REPEAT
OP IS NOT A FAGGOT
Мне вот интересно, ты по прежнему носишь этот флажок хотя всецело понимаешь что будет если твои собраться каким-то чудом возьмут власть в РБ. Зачем?
Какой ещё саботаж? Кого я этим саботировал? Ватные диванные войска? Вероломно подорвал им пердак?
Почти все пленные не из армии, а из росгвардии. Их задача обеспечивать порядок среди населения, а не воевать. Им могли и не сказать, что послали на войну.
fake as usual
So back to what’s happening.
Russian army is WEIRD. By your standards anyway. Its way way more prison-like than you can imagine.
The gist of it are the following assumptions:
-It was indeed a drill where nobody was told they are going to war. the fuel was stolen
-most of combatants are indeed inexperienced and thus incompetent. They are contractors, but russian contractors are extremely cushy jobs aside from some “elite” units. that arent here.
-information vacuum. their phones were forbidden (well not entirely, but they were told explicitly that any post will get them court marshalled)
Russian army is WEIRD. By your standards anyway. Its way way more prison-like than you can imagine.
The gist of it are the following assumptions:
-It was indeed a drill where nobody was told they are going to war. the fuel was stolen
-most of combatants are indeed inexperienced and thus incompetent. They are contractors, but russian contractors are extremely cushy jobs aside from some “elite” units. that arent here.
-information vacuum. their phones were forbidden (well not entirely, but they were told explicitly that any post will get them court marshalled)
Я не понимаю зачем этим заниматься во время войны. Парни гибнут там прямо сейчас, лучше их поддержать.
Thx, that's enough. What questions do u have?
Look, if you want to hear truthful opinions - try ChatRoulette.
hang the flag of Russia and then Ukraine behind your back and listen to what people from Russia and Ukraine will tell you.
Let me explain: there are more "advanced" and smarter people here than in ChatRoulette. Most of the rednecks (bydlo) on both sides want the war.
I will say for myself - war is the worst possible thing.
post your power socket
скажи, ты реально тупой, или прикидываешься?
Ебать лахты нагнали конечно. Значение хоть знаешь?
Ну да лажно сжалюсь над тобой - этот значок проставляется автоматически беларусским айпишникам. Да, да, спасибо абу. А закат над болотом надо выбирать.
What do you think will there be 3 world war? If yes then when?
Теперь у тебя их два, змагар, не еби кукшку. Такие как ты это драйвер всех будующих вой на пространстве снг.
my slut №3 from GB say , that gb people afraid of missle attack from mr.Hitler.
what is your fucking translater wrote
no one in movies doesn`t say that them civil people.
no doubt. words about training true. It is good reason how to explain sending people near enemy border.
war is the art of lie
what is your fucking translater wrote
no one in movies doesn`t say that them civil people.
no doubt. words about training true. It is good reason how to explain sending people near enemy border.
war is the art of lie
Думаешь они там сосаку на фронте читают? Это просто моё личное мнение, я не поддерживаю эту авантюру. Могли бы просто встать на границе ЛДНР и показывать всему миру как они мирняк от фашистов из азова защищают. Но нет, дед не выдержал троллинга зелибобы и пошёл декоммунизировать красавицу на всю катушку.
Согласен с тобой полностью. Дед испугался что западную украину вооружат и накачают идеологически, но... как бы и что? Остальная европа тоже вооружена и не любит россию. Не понимаю этого.
Нет, я просто не верю. Ты наверное жирослав и посмеиваешься там за монитором «как я их затралел глупостью»
Ну да ладно, кхм. Вдруг ты и правда аутист, а тебе 15 рублей пригодятся.
У меня их два потому что один из них я выбрал, а второй - подставился автоматически. И выбрал я его после твоего поста в надежде что у тебя щелкнет в голове осознание. Чтобы научить тебя бедолагу базовому функционалу оранжевого сайта.
The first victim of the war is the truth.
Я давно в политач не заходил.
I'll post what I know and think from UK google/reddit searches for all of you.
Perceptions are that Russia is using this as an attempt to restore the soviet union. They were expecting to take Ukraine easily but weren't expecting such a resistance and global sanctions.
From international news and Wikipedia the casualties are 2,500+ Russians killed and 3500+ Ukrainians. Are you aware of this? I have seen threads here suggesting that the numbers are far different according to Russian media.
I have seen what I think is propaganda blaming a Ukraine nazi problem as the reason for the Russian invasion. Ukraine has a nazi and racism problem but so does a lot of Eastern Europe. It seems Russia is trying to use this as an entire justification.
There are examples of multiple war crimes by Russia like the shelling/bombing of children in videos and photos that are hard to fake. Are you aware of this?
Я опубликую для всех вас то, что знаю и думаю из поисков Google/reddit в Великобритании. Есть мнение, что Россия использует это как попытку восстановить Советский Союз. Они рассчитывали легко взять Украину, но не ожидали такого сопротивления и глобальных санкций. Согласно международным новостям и Википедии, потери составляют 2500+ убитых россиян и 3500+ украинцев. Вы знаете об этом? Я видел здесь темы, предполагающие, что цифры сильно отличаются по данным российских СМИ. Я видел то, что я считаю пропагандой, обвиняющей украинские нацистские проблемы в качестве причины российского вторжения. В Украине есть проблема нацизма и расизма, как и во многих странах Восточной Европы. Кажется, Россия пытается использовать это как полное оправдание. Есть примеры множественных гардеробов, таких как обстрел/бомбардировка детей на видео и фото, которые трудно подделать. Вы знаете об этом?
Хорошо бы и дальше не заходил. Но куратору конечно виднее.
Заметь как забавно, что твоя реакция на протянутую руку помощи - сразу переходить на личности и агриться. Да и изначальный пост - реакция как на красную тряпку. В рандомном треде, который ну вообще к беларуси никаким боком. Подумай об этом.
Спасибо, я подумаю над тем в каких позах присунуть твоей матери.
Yes laaaaad, Anglo in the chat! County you from our kid?
Glad you made it to the Russki side of the internet, it's a fucking madhouse over here.
Here isn't the best place for frank discussion — there are some sane people and some absolute nutcases on both side of the coin. In any case, it's hard to gauge what people actually think. You can't tell if people are unironically pro-war or just pissing about on the internet.
Я сомневаюсь что в армию на контракт попадают люди с мозгом
>From international news and Wikipedia the casualties are 2,500+ Russians killed and 3500+ Ukrainians. Are you aware of this? I have seen threads here suggesting that the numbers are far different according to Russian media.
To be honest:
In the period from December 2020 to November 2021, the death rate exceeded 2.4 million people, and the population decline approached 1 million Russians
And it's not just a covid.
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From Bristol mate. Have been checking this place out to see what the techy Gen Z and OG 4channer types are saying, seems your assertion is pretty valid. 3/4 seems to have a delayed but eventual awareness of what we know and the other 1/4 is very Mother Russia oriented.
From Bristol mate. Have been checking this place out to see what the techy Gen Z and OG 4channer types are saying, seems your assertion is pretty valid. 3/4 seems to have a delayed but eventual awareness of what we know and the other 1/4 is very Mother Russia oriented.
> In Russia most healthy young males are drafted to serve 1 or 1.5 years, someone from Russia could correct me.
people from beggar family go to army for 1 year people from villages, teachers, scientists, nurse, sellers, factory-workers children
people from rich family not go to army, as mr. Putin, or defense minister mr. Shoygoo attorneys, judge, policeman, army commanders, webcam prostitutes, government-workers, internal spy, IT-workers
when you have been sended to army for one year, or in civilness, you can sometimes make deal about contract. after this contract your wage will grow from 2000r (20$ per month) to 25000r ($250 per month) - but you must 3 years be in army.
Европа просто ссыт что беспокойная Россия на неё нападёт. Надо было убедить её и легитимизировать свои притязания, что это не покушение на демократию, что мы не против вступления хохлов в ЕС, что на Донбассе тоже люди и у них своё мнение, что никакие они не террористы, что они хотят мира. Да, там бы визжали что это всё ложь, что вы нас тут наёбываете, но надо было долго и терпеливо это всё показывать, приглашать наблюдателей, говорить что вот если бы Киев выполнил минские соглашения, вот как хорошо бы сразу зажили. Пиар, Кремль совершенно не умеет в пиар, набрали каких-то тошнотворных бездарей, которые только врать и не краснеть научились. Вот нас и выебали информационно, как сидорову козу, уличили во лжи, пропаганде, фейках, беззастенчивом продвижении повесточки. Ну мы такие а чё, штатам можно а нам нельзя, и давай ещё более тошнотворную хуйню нести, в которую ну совсем уже никто не поверит кроме совковых бабок.
>Perceptions are that Russia is using this as an attempt to restore the soviet union. They were expecting to take Ukraine easily but weren't expecting such a resistance and global sanctions.
This is too radical a wording. Russia is trying not to restore the Soviet Union, but to maintain order in the post-Soviet space. Ukraine has been a TOTAL mess for the last 8 years. Whether military resistance was expected or not, I don’t know, in order to know this you need to be a direct participant in these events or an insider.
>From international news and Wikipedia the casualties are 2,500+ Russians killed and 3500+ Ukrainians. Are you aware of this? I have seen threads here suggesting that the numbers are far different according to Russian media.
Don't trust ANY numbers now.
>I have seen what I think is propaganda blaming a Ukraine nazi problem as the reason for the Russian invasion. Ukraine has a nazi and racism problem but so does a lot of Eastern Europe. It seems Russia is trying to use this as an entire justification.
Everything is somewhat more complicated than banal Nazism, but it is there. There are brutal Nazi battalions that do not obey the orders of the army, they do not follow the conventions of warfare, they torture and kill civilians. The evidence exists.
>There are examples of multiple war crimes by Russia like the shelling/bombing of children in videos and photos that are hard to fake. Are you aware of this?
This is war. Innocent victims cannot be avoided, but no one does it on purpose. There are also many fakes.
I will not comment on war crimes and casualties. We know the numbers, we know about bombings. This war is terrible, it's a big mistake.
But there is two problems. The first one - we have to win. Defeat is not acceptable. Well I myself would just stop it immediately, but I'm not Putin. And Putin has no other choice except to win this war. Russia will win this shit for sure no matter how many people die. Cost is irrelevant.
The second problem - Ukranian authorities and EU/US want to prolong the war as far as possible. That will just increase the number of casualties but it will not change the outcome. Weapons that EU sends in Ukraine increase the number of deaths. Weapons ukranian leadership gives to ukranian citizens increase the number of deaths. There were a massacre yesterday in Kherson where russian military killed a lot of people with molotovs. They are not civilians if the have weapons! It's a disaster right now.
I pray this war will be finished as soon as possible. Preferably with a capitulation of Ukraine.
>estore the soviet union
Everyone understand it's impossible. Europe and US wanted provocate Ukraine to start deoccupie their south-east territory from prorussian separatists. They waited Putin to answer to this and tnen they call him agressor and make all the same sanctions. Putin decided to attack fist. Anyway he'll be agressor, but with less loses from his own loyal peoples inside country.
>2,500+ Russians
Probably, but it's not matter for us. We don't aware of that, cause most of russians don't want this war and don't think this soldiers is our heroes. Ukrainians can's can't resist against our army alone and sharing this kind of information is their only way to fight against us - they hope it could scare peoples here and push Putin to stop agressin. But we seen just couple hundreds of our death soldiers during first week. If this amount was few thousends, we got much more content.
>3500+ Ukrainians
Unfortunally not less this number, cause we ruined about 1000 military objects there and all of them had some people on their territory.
>Are you aware of this?
Ofc, no matter what we could win, most russians don't like this war, but we are already living like hostages here and can't change anything. Eastern leaders should make sanctions like they do today for last 8 years. But they prefer to deal with him and let his friends and propagandists buy estate and live in Europe an US. And now they just isolate us alone with that mad leader.
в рашке набора на войну не было, первыми пошли воевать чвк, за ними наверно обычные солдаты подтянулись.
насчет военнопленных непонятно ибо врут все, хохлы фейки клепают, русские наверно тоже.
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Sure.
Sure.
Украина обладает самой лучшей информационно-пропагандистской и психически-деструктивной системой на планете. Как в плане вооружения, так и в плане информационной войны Украину тренировали западные государства (Особенно Великобритания).
Украинское правительство и его пропагандистская машина выжимает всю возможную пользу из каждого кадра происходящего в данный момент на полях сражений. Буквально сами обстреливают собственные дома, взрывают брошенную русскую технику (без топлива), прячут свою военную технику в жилых дворах (чтобы у армии РФ не было выбора, кроме как начать обстрелы по домам) и отправляют по многочисленным телеграм группам на создание так называемых "креативов".
Их самые идеологически настроенные боевые группы ведут в своей стране себя как настоящие террористы, блокируя выезд мирных граждан из горячей точки. Запугивают, подкупают, принуждают, кормят такой же дезинформацией, которой кормят и все СМИ в странах запада.
Дают напуганным, дезинформированным, голодным, паникующим людям массово оружие. И оставляют их без присмотра хоть какой-либо полиции и каких-либо гос органов. Они начинают мародёрить друг друга и ловить друг друга, ищут диверсантов среди своих, ДАЖЕ ВНУТРИ СОБСТВЕННОЙ АРМИИ. Недавно также выпустили всех заключённых и также им раздали оружие.
На данный момент действия Украинской власти и Украинских информационных технологий ЦИПСО буквально походят на пропагандистские машины Нацистской Германии, Японской Империи и радио 1000 холмов в Руанде.
Российскую операцию-войну будут изучать всем миром из-за рекордо эффективных действий и максимально эффективного захвата страны в 21 веке.
Украинскую пропаганду также будут изучать ещё не одно десятилетие, как самую выдающуюся пропаганду в истории 21 века.
Заранее извиняюсь, что не перевожу.
Слишком много есть чего сказать и слишком мало времени имеется на это.
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Thank you for your messages I'm using a browser based translator and it all makes sense.
Спасибо за ваши сообщения, я использую переводчик на основе браузера, и все это имеет смысл.
Thank you for your messages I'm using a browser based translator and it all makes sense.
Спасибо за ваши сообщения, я использую переводчик на основе браузера, и все это имеет смысл.
Йес, бро, ё инглиш из гуд. МГИМО финишд?
if ur eating this pro ukrainian propaganda like the whole world, it means ur a nigger, kys
няши оглушительно визжат
stay sober & dont be brainwashed by ukrainian agenda
Why u even care about russia and this war?
>ass
fuck off yank
Np, gb anon. Some situations u can't change, we know that people on the west terryfied now with nuke danger, but this situation is literally impossible and could be used only by some populistic part of your politics.
We should just wait now, when this government would be week economically and with since, to give up and and take power in our hands to rebuild our real true russian society - society of scientists, creators, writers and all other kind of brave smart people, that ready to open new horizons with other nations. The period, that we start now, will be very tough and cruel for us, but this is the only way to redemption. Our message to other nation is just to let u know, that behind the shield of Putin's media, payed internet trolls and amo, that Putin gave to muslim and uneducated youth, we still alive and waiting for our hour - in Putin's prisons, in other countries, in dark corners of internet. Don't be too harsh for any russian u'll meet in your life and try to share this message in other resources.
My personal recomendation for u these days - just try to cheer up with some Andy M. Stewart music. He was genious and the one who share great part of gb culture though the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk8D7jNrkoU
Новоприбывший доширачник-хуесос даже не палится.
please say "london is the capital of great britain and it's rainy today, isn't it?"with the most british prononciation as you can. Thanks!
crazy fan of british english
https://vocaroo.com/
crazy fan of british english
https://vocaroo.com/
Как ты имеешь совесть говорить это когда доказательство того к чему приводят националистические движения на славянском постсоветском пространстве прямо перед тобой сейчас? Воняет горелое мясо, кипит жир, но тебе по прежнему похуй. Ты думаешь змагарье это что-то типа либерды российской которая на антикоррупционной повестке двигается? Нет, долбаебина, это что-то типа бандеровцев украинских и все идет по тому же сценарию что в украине.
>Я из Великобритании/Англи
Buddy, you better tell me why your politicians didn’t tear up the bald scum when it twice spoiled the whole of London with chemistry and radiation?
Правда что поляки мечтают быть немцами, а немцы британцами?
Is it true that Poles dream of being Germans and Germans of being British?
why are you even trying?
i'd tell these lahta-pidors to go and fuck themselves, but volodin-not-gay does that just fine, as far as i'm concerned
London is the capital of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, ю анкультуред швайн
нет никакого советского союза, вам обьяснили уберите пушки с украины или будет война, вы и украинцы отказались. Теперь хохлы байтят весь мир на третью мировую.
потери неизвестны ибо никто не скажет и преувеличат чужие.
видосы можно подделать какие угодно, зависит от уровня монтажера.
хз, я тут живу. Вырос в РФ, по паспорту русский. Вроде многие немцы хотят в Швейцарию свалить. Англия им тоже, вроде как, нравится.
Ты о чём, шиз?
Russian people have a lot of friend in Ukraine, real friends and online. Relatives too.
You must hate mr.p and his gang only. Not russian people! You must hate nafia! He has REALLY gang with criminal structure. Mr. P's favorite book - The Godfather by Mario Puzo. Do you understand?
Now we write to our friends in Ukraine EVERY DAY, because we need know, are they alive or not. Have they food or not. You must hate military sctructure! In our country it is especially unethical. Please, see shock-content in te youtube, you must see it. Read stories in comments about rus.armia from real people!
We (people in Russia) HATE mr.p and his gang. We don't see it irl, only on TV. But we have a lot of problem in life IRL. Every year bring new problems. But you see only propaganda from Kremlin, you don't know real life in Russia. Did you see news about Russian opposition since 2012? Read please all about opposition in Russia, right now. And about real life here, not in the instagram, because all content here want by luxary.
You realy think we have a lot of super actors with Thousand-yard stare?
О том, что эти два клоуна с британскими флажками - очевидные лахтинцы. Ты же в курсе, что у них есть наборы американских, австралийских, британских вилок как раз для пруфов?
Просто по работе общался с немцами по телефону, так вот, они совсем не хотели со мной по-немецки базарить, сразу на английский переходили, а я вроде бы нормального говорю по-немецки (ну или не сильно английский мой от немецкого отличается). Хз почему так. Да и вся эта американизация и дроч на англосферу у них ощущается.
Ну так-то логично. Мне тоже приятнее было бы на английском говорить, чем слушать корявый русский в стиле макфола.
Хз мб в этом дело, проблема в том что их английский часто оставляет желать лучшего).
А какая цель?
Они же не говорят, что на западе все поддерживают плешарика или не кричат после всех ответов: "Думали иностранному барену жаловаться? А вот хуй вам - никто вас не спасет!"
Думаю у лахты сейчас и так работа в три смены по перекрытию свинолахты и работы в каментах на более популярных у нормисов ресурсах.
Чёт в это я верю гораздо меньше, чем даже в забредшего на двач британца. Я думаю, это просто какой-то русский, который перекатился в бриташку и получил паспорт заходит сюда потролить.
Это какая-то известная фишка немцев. Со мной тоже вначале переходили на английский. Как я понимаю, немцы думают, что немецкий очень трудный для всех язык и пытаются тем самым сделать тебе одолжение - продолжить беседу на более простом языке, который большинство населения знает. Надо просто спокойно сказать, что хотел бы продолжить разговор на немецком.
блять, это троль какой то с донатами от ходорковского
Может, и действительно тролль. В любом случае, в постах ошибок много.
>Думаю у лахты сейчас и так работа в три смены по перекрытию свинолахты и работы в каментах на более популярных у нормисов ресурсах.
Если начальство лахты такие же идиоты, как остальные наши правители, то могли тупо делать по плану. "2 марта - концерт гомозанова. 3 марта - пост от имени англичанина"
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I have provided one of my books, my passport heading and plug socket. What else do you want?
Я предоставил одну из своих книг, шапку в паспорте и розетку. Что еще вы хотите?
I have provided one of my books, my passport heading and plug socket. What else do you want?
Я предоставил одну из своих книг, шапку в паспорте и розетку. Что еще вы хотите?
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I'm using Google translate, sorry about the errors.
Я использую гугл-переводчик, извините за ошибки.
I'm using Google translate, sorry about the errors.
Я использую гугл-переводчик, извините за ошибки.
>2к22
>параша
>потролить
show merch of football team u support
Nobody knows here for sure what was the original motivation, so here's what I'm inclined to think.
Russia didn't want to give up soviet military base at Sevastopol, which is inhabited mostly by ethnic Russians. This base was formally in lease, and radical Ukrainians wanted to deploy NATO forces here when lease comes to an end. This is absolutely not an option for Russia and her Black sea fleet, therefore annexation was necessary. L/DPR were kind of side product of Ukrainian unrest in 2014, Putin seen this as opportunity to claim this as bonus, to compensate demographic pit in Russia and to have alternative way to Crimea (you can see this in Novorossia meme maps). West didn't allow him to support these territories at full scale, so kind of cold war developed over them for next 8 years.
Each Ukrainian president have promised to radical Ukrainians that he'll return L/DPR and Crimea, absolutely no less. But this meant to start a war with Putin, which was unbearable for Ukraine alone. Ukraine asked for help in NATO/US/Europe, pictured Russia as mad aggressor who wants to restore USSR empire and hates Ukraine, democracy, human rights and other western values. Today radicals are in power in Ukraine and with support from US they started military buildup to take back L/DPR and Crimea.
For God knows what reason Putin decided that Ukrainians en masse are loyal to Russians and declared total war to Ukrainian radicals. I guess the bet was that the operation will be peaceful, radicals will run away, other Ukrainians will happily meet Russian forces, but all this just didn't happen. Of course Putin was mostly defending L/DPR and Crimea to remain in Russian control, but he couldn't picture this in media to be convincing and legitimate, even for Russians themselves, most of us are still shocked.
I'm not saying that Putin is good here. I'm against this war. We've completely lost info war and became pariah country. Currently Putin is attempting to just ignore this and sends army to fight to win control of at least Crimea. Nazis he's talking about is mostly exaggeration of Ukrainian radicals who want their pre-2014 borders. Regarding USSR restoration, my opinion is that Putin wanted to make something similar to EU/NATO made of independent ex-USSR countries, multi-polar world he was talking about so much, kind of alternative to real EU/NATO. But Ukrainians had different opinion about this, they're trying to become a better version of Russians, to build their superior self-identification, not just minor brothers, and they went full mad at this, by threatening Russia with NATO expansion. You can see lots of examples how brave they are at yelling at Russian soldiers, how often they pejoratively compare themselves with us.
Now both sides are in total butthole and there's no easy way to resolve this. It just went almost uncontrollable. That's what we get for artificially drawn borders many years ago.
Hey OP.
I went to an anti-war protest in St. Petersburg today. Here's what I want to say. There were practically only young people at the rally. Ordinary civilians in Russia don't want war. The problem is that our population has been brainwashed by propaganda. The second problem is the demographics, the older generation believes the lies of the authorities. And there are too few young people. Peaceful protest will not be able to change the government in our country. THERE ARE SIMPLY TOO FEW OF US. People have been intimidated for 20 years, the state has been turned into a prison like North Korea. We are in prison here.
I went to an anti-war protest in St. Petersburg today. Here's what I want to say. There were practically only young people at the rally. Ordinary civilians in Russia don't want war. The problem is that our population has been brainwashed by propaganda. The second problem is the demographics, the older generation believes the lies of the authorities. And there are too few young people. Peaceful protest will not be able to change the government in our country. THERE ARE SIMPLY TOO FEW OF US. People have been intimidated for 20 years, the state has been turned into a prison like North Korea. We are in prison here.
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I'm actually an outlier in the UK as I don't follow football. When I'm traveling that's the first thing a lot of people ask.
Я на самом деле исключение в Великобритании, так как я не слежу за футболом. Когда я путешествую, это первое, о чем спрашивают многие люди.
I'm actually an outlier in the UK as I don't follow football. When I'm traveling that's the first thing a lot of people ask.
Я на самом деле исключение в Великобритании, так как я не слежу за футболом. Когда я путешествую, это первое, о чем спрашивают многие люди.
I would also like to add that Putin started this war. He alone is to blame for what is happening now. We don't want it, but we can't do anything about it.
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That's an interesting response about the age gap and prison state, I'm sorry to hear that man. Is there anything you think other countries can do to help?
We have a lot of issues here with votes for the Conservative government and Brexit mostly being older people who pay attention to tabloids. I hope your generation doesn't suffer because of the older people not taking action.
Это интересный ответ о разнице в возрасте и тюремном состоянии, мне жаль слышать этого человека. Как вы думаете, другие страны могут чем-то помочь? У нас здесь много проблем с голосами за консервативное правительство и Brexit, в основном это пожилые люди, которые обращают внимание на таблоиды. Я надеюсь, что ваше поколение не страдает из-за того, что пожилые люди бездействуют.
That's an interesting response about the age gap and prison state, I'm sorry to hear that man. Is there anything you think other countries can do to help?
We have a lot of issues here with votes for the Conservative government and Brexit mostly being older people who pay attention to tabloids. I hope your generation doesn't suffer because of the older people not taking action.
Это интересный ответ о разнице в возрасте и тюремном состоянии, мне жаль слышать этого человека. Как вы думаете, другие страны могут чем-то помочь? У нас здесь много проблем с голосами за консервативное правительство и Brexit, в основном это пожилые люди, которые обращают внимание на таблоиды. Я надеюсь, что ваше поколение не страдает из-за того, что пожилые люди бездействуют.
Didn't go MGIMO — I went to a real uni in the UK!
> shelling/bombing of children in videos and photos that are hard to fake
Do you really believe Russia invaded Ukraine to bomb children? Why didn't they bomb all the cities to the ground then? All the children will be dead for sure.
Do you really believe Russia invaded Ukraine to bomb children? Why didn't they bomb all the cities to the ground then? All the children will be dead for sure.
While reading threads here you should know that there is a lot of fake comments from so called "lahta", paid trolls. They are of course pro-war and write stuff like "where have you been for last 8 years".
I think the Western countries did a very wise thing in not starting a military conflict into a world war. Sanctions work, they kill the economy and Putin will not be able to continue the war. He lost, it's only a matter of time. The problem is that sanctions will also destroy our country. Prepare humanitarian aid with food.
Clearly not, you boys are having a hard time capturing muhosransk and zazhopinsk
>Это правда или военнопленные врут?
Of course they lie. Russians always lie.
Dude, you're interested talking to a Russian in real life, how can I contact you?
I'm in Britain now, ran away from clown Russian world
> ran away from
Where to run to? Everything is closed for Russians.
Я сделал это заранее, так как пиздец чувствовал за пол года до.
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I'm about to fall asleep but I've set up a Leapchat channel here.
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Please don't believe anyone here. It's all a hoax. This board has been occupied by Kremlin propagandists on the payroll. They are paid for their posts. they sow enmity between Russians and Ukrainians. they promote war, genocide, Nazism and fascism.
Without knowledge of the Russian language and local methodologies, you're wallowing in lies. Know this, there are anonymous people who are against Putin and consider him a war criminal. Putin is a terrorist, a Russophobe, a murderer of Slavs, an enemy of the civilized world.
Be careful
>want to prolong the war as far as possible. That will just increase the number of casualties
Oh, poor Pynya, he would SO like to see Ukraine just surrender in a blink of an eye. Well, no such luck. Not everyone would relax and enjoy it if being raped.
This. Be super careful what you read, bro. Kremlin-bots are everywhere, here, YouTube, reddit, name it.
Pooptin spent billions on informational warfare. They are very primitive and easy to detect, but they can get you if you unaware of their existence.
hello Earthling, I'm from Mars. Your Earth is our comedy show. It's fucking great. Keep it up! Absolutely 5 stars.
Second this.
Хотя не следует забывать и о послушной вате, которая всегда ОДОБРЯМ.
answering on behalf of my fellow countryman - no merch, just Old Trafford. No "montazh"
>They are paid for their posts. they sow enmity between Russians and Ukrainians. they promote war, genocide, Nazism and fascism.
yea
sure
Удивительно но на этой пикче настоящая демократия, такая какая она есть.
Чубатый, спок.
Это охлократия.
Истинная демократия - прямая.
Для прямой демократии нужен высокий по стране уровень образования и вовлечённость общества в процесс управления страной.
База на дваче, охуеть.
>>хрюхрю
Каво?
Тот что слева сдох?
Руку не держит так труп.
When you Russians say "it's not me, it's Putin's doing!" Was it Putin that waged war, discriminated and oppressed Ukrainians(people that lived in the land that is not called Ukraine) for hundreds of years? Maybe it's time to admit it's not Putin, it's Russia.
Ukraine and Russia were one nation for hundreds of years, you dumb nigger. Kiev used to be the capital of this nation at some point. Many Russians have Ukrainian roots and also Ukrainian friends or family. The only reason this conflict triggers you so much is that white people get killed.
very decent mate, now u need take England flag and put in your ass deep as u can and make a photo so we can confirm you are brit
>Ukraine and Russia were one nation for hundreds of years
You mean that time Catherine II completely fucked over Cossack Hetmanate and called them "little Russia". How fucking nice and brotherly of her.
Do you want me to find another similar instance?
Cossacks are a subethnos of Russians, like Siberians or Uralians. Of course, much more original and free.
The Communists very roughly divided the peoples and republics. Putin believes that Russia has been deprived of these processes, as I think. There is a part of the truth in this. The USSR was still a commonwealth of peoples and it was worth not sharing everything, losing and taking it out for sale to the well-fed West, but only getting rid of fucking communism
I don't really agree with him. Those who remember the old will lose an eye, and those who forget will lose two eyes. As we say.
>Perceptions are that Russia is using this as an attempt to restore the soviet union. They were expecting to take Ukraine easily but weren't expecting such a resistance and global sanctions.
Wrong. The West pumped Ukraine with weapons for 8 years straight and don't even trying to stop now. The second problem is that Russia don't need to restore USSR because it has no clue for now.
>From international news and Wikipedia the casualties are 2,500+ Russians killed and 3500+ Ukrainians. Are you aware of this? I have seen threads here suggesting that the numbers are far different according to Russian media.
The middle ground persists somewhere between these two: the official ukranian losses and official russian losses. You can never know how much exacly both sides lost. But deciding the operation speed and bombings you could except really high ukranian losses.
> have seen what I think is propaganda blaming a Ukraine nazi problem as the reason for the Russian invasion. Ukraine has a nazi and racism problem but so does a lot of Eastern Europe. It seems Russia is trying to use this as an entire justification.
Yes and no. For example, one of reasons for the war was Zelenskiy's statement about Ukraine getting a nuclear weapon again.
>There are examples of multiple war crimes by Russia like the shelling/bombing of children in videos and photos that are hard to fake. Are you aware of this?
You're having a war, what did you expect? However, we're having a shitton ukrainian fakes. Just look at BUK missile hit the apartaments for which Ukraine claims it was a CALIBER missile.
Россия это страна где все всегда врут.
Не ври, сука!
Британцы, зачем вы разожгли конфликт?
Как гласит ирландская поговорка: если два ирландца дерутся, значит у одного из них вчера был в гостях британец.
That would be the best outcome given the conflict is already started.
Я видел несколько видеороликов о российских военнопленных, которые говорят, что они обычные гражданские лица и молодые люди, которым сказали, что они идут на учения, а затем приказали вторгнуться.
I guess they're not lying - conscripts can't take part in hostilities, but they can "sign" a contract after 3 months of service... and by "sign" I mean it's happening even without their consent.
> проукраинские настроения.
Вот тут-то и спалился, гомосек на подсосе. Переводчик никогда это не переведёт.
Переобуюсь. Лавров в интервью скозал что Украха вся в угрожающей нам инфраструктуре. Стоять на границе ЛДНР нет смысла.
FUCK EAT?
Double tea
> ебать еду
> пыня задница
Это шифр
Pidoraha is on special task
Hello there my fellow cockhole! How is the mood in CISPO today? Are you start felling peremoga already, or its still zrada?
Здесь никто не разжигает конфликт, кроме вас.
еще одна ирландская погороврка: suck yer mum
This is the beginning of the EU fucking itself to death, my man. So I reckon. Good riddance. The hysteric spackers just won't be able to handle their ukraine mission in any way that won't quickly poison them all. New chapter coming
>felling
Перефорс - национальное оружие свинок
EAT PUTIN'S ASS ENGLISH FAGGOT
FUCKED ALL YOUR COLLEGE GIRLS IN LONDON
Bad boy Magomet
Its not like US Marines are different for example, or used to be until 2010s.
Они не гражданские. У нас армия не только по контракту, но и призывная. Это значит что как только тебе исполняется 18 лет, то тебя насильно забирают в армию на год.
Englishmen don't use such long sentences. Obossan.
For you, Lahta scum and Pynya, maybe. Ukrainians believe they are defending their independence and willing to go a long way for it.
Also, EU and Nato will intervene if it drags on much longer.
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Это что за хуйня? Постоянно вижу.
Most of these captives are part of first human wave cannon fodder attack that goes as planned: putin doesn't care about these troops, these are garbage eaters who are using outdated hardware, and could be used to create some ruckus rather than disposing of them
real stuff, modern weapons like hypersonic lasers and kadyrovs universal soldiers are not yet in action, and kadyrov is growing impatient and upset, asking putin to use bigger guns
alright here's few going conspiracies:
Putin doesnt need ukraine, doesnt need LDPR - never did, all he needed is more sanctions and hopefully to drag NATO into this mess
He achieved part of his plan, sanctions are massive, this gives him full control of the country - any oppositon is subdued and набутылено
Ukraine conflict unfortunately will drag for many months and damage will be massive, but after some kind of peace deal Ukraine joins EU and it's a nice treat for western capital - gotta rebuild and rearm the country after all. So nothing good for Ukraine in long run - huge debt and militarization
Russia will be buttfucked by China eventually, which sees Russia as a huge market for pretty much any goods imaginable, and this is a clear win for them.
Britain, who went full retard with brexit, benefits from all the shit happening in EU: brexit timing was too fucking perfect to be accidental
shit, you've rumbled us...
he's right, it's all a British plot. Anglo trickery.
I'm buying british stock, remember this post, see if I was right in 6 months or so.
Already have some chinese high tech/IT stock, they'll be profiting from russian market massively, huge growth for 5-10 years
I give putins russia about 3 months before full economic collapse, massive riots everywhere and entire regions going awol
Ты не понял, похоже. Пыня использует Си как ледокол, а Украина - это его формально выигранная финская война. Основные события будут, когда Си нападет на Тайвань и Пыня выступит миротворцем и спасет мир от ядерной войны. Так что акциям китайским твоим скоро кирдык. Можешь скринить.
АНГЛИЙСКИЙ ПИДОР- ИДИ НАХУЙ!
Я видел несколько видеороликов о российских военнопленных, которые говорят, что они обычные гражданские лица и молодые люди, которым сказали, что они идут на учения, а затем приказали вторгнуться.
Это правда или военнопленные врут?
Есть много других вопросов, которые я мог бы задать.